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How might we enrich video with other resources or experiences so that it better supports your practice?

In Stage 1, we heard that watching a video by itself isn’t often helpful.

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Rachel S

Pop-Up Videos with Immediate Commentary or Feedback

My idea is to create videos that provides feedback or comments that shows up during the video. I could see this working in two ways: the first is that the teacher who taught the lesson can have the "teacher commentary" in comments below the video in real time. Observers can see the rationale for why the teacher made the moves they did, or the teacher can explain what they might do instead if they were to teach the lesson again. Second, teachers would be able to make comments that could provide feedback to the teachers, creating a feedback loop for teachers.

Potential Impact

I think this could be an incredible way to build a database of lessons that both informs CCSS practice as well as providing feedback to teachers who are interested in improving their practice. It can also help teachers within a school building or network collaborate and build a data-base of their work as educators, or be even more broad across many districts.

Possible Implementation

I see the videos being similar to VH1's Pop Up Videos, or to the way that Soundcloud allows listeners to make comments on audio that show up at the exact moment that is connected to the comment. I see the videos themselves housed in a forum like Teaching Channel, or something similar, where groups can be formed and videos can be made public or private. Ideally there could be a data base that has videos showing lessons that apply to all CCSS across grades and subjects.


Discussion (19)

3 Years Ago

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Christopher B Community Guide

Downers Grove North High School

Hi there, Rachel. I like this idea and it is very similar to "Small Bite Videos with Micro Credentialing" proposed by Marisa N for the question "how might we make professional development videos easier to find." You should check her idea out and perhaps you two could collaborate on this.

3 Years Ago

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Thanks, Christopher! I will check out her idea and see if I can collaborate with her on it.

3 Years Ago

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Chandrakytoy

South Oldham High School

I really like this idea. Another version (differentiated) would be to have teachers analyze what the teacher is doing and add the "pop up."

3 Years Ago

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Thanks for your comment! I think that one of the reasons this is a cool idea is it is jumping off point for a larger idea with a greater impact. This could be used in so many of the ideas that have been put forward. I found a really neat website called "Zaption" that allows for this sort of interplay and learning to happen throughout a video. I'm linking the website, it's definitely worth checking out!

3 Years Ago

Hey Rachel, I have been working with a group of teachers a CCSD that have a camera mounted in the ceiling and are recording using VIEWpath. We are working to help grow this project there. The next thing I think they will be doing is Edivate Review. It does pretty much what you are talking about. You type the comment and it post it like a closed caption at the bottom of the video. As you are watching you just start typing. It pauses the video and inserts it 10 seconds prior to you typing. As soon as you hit enter it starts playing again.

3 Years Ago

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Thanks for your comment, Anthony. I just got a chance to look a little at Edivate and it looks like a powerful resource. Having the time stamped comments seems especially interesting. I am also curious about the camera mounted on the ceiling. I wonder if there are some design ideas that could come from that that would allow some of the multi-track camera angle that Bruce talks about in his idea "Multi-Camera Track Videos". In any case, I am really interested in learning more about edivate and if it would be possible to do something similar on a larger scale. What has your experience been with it so far?

3 Years Ago

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Fred E

Putnam/Northern Westchester

It is so funny that you thought of this; I was going to submit an idea that was almost exactly the same. The benefit of having commentary shared a la "Pop-Up Video" makes the best practices being explored even more valuable, and more likely to "hit home." In addition, it builds relevance. . . "Pop-Up Video" was so popular because not only was the music engaging, but we were invested in learning more about what we were listening to. I would wonder how to create those "pop-ups" so as not to distract form what is happening on camera. There's likely a balance between what we should be reading and what we need to "see" to make the videos most effective.

3 Years Ago

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Thanks for your comment, Fred! I think you make a really good point. With lots of comments, it can get really distracting. One thing I like about Zaption is that it puts the comments on the side so that you can pause and read a series of comments relevant to that timestamp on the video. That might unclog the pop-ups a little. But I'm wondering how we can make sure the most salient comments are still featured?

3 Years Ago

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Rosa I Community Guide

Lawndale Elementary School District

Anthony, Rachel, and Fred- I like the "pop'up" video concept and appreciate the sharing. I am curious about Edivate and the mounted camera in the classroom. Thanks for sharing!

3 Years Ago

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Hi Rosa, thanks for the comment! I think there are some great opportunities for conversation to happen with video, and there's some great chance for collaboration on this idea.

3 Years Ago

Just some extra information. VIEWpath with he EduCam360 is what creates the recordings. VIEWpath allows some different views of the classroom but as far as multiple camera angles that usually has some downfalls. It usually ends up costing a lot more and it takes either a very tech savvy teacher or an operator to use it. I really believe that ease of use is the key to having an impact across the board. I do not know as much about the Edivate Review large implementations but have had meeting where they have told about some. You can easily pause the play back in Edivate and the caption stays on the screen.

3 Years Ago

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Anthony, thanks for the information about the EduCam360, Viewpath, and Edivate. I wonder if there are ways we could do similar work but for less money? Could two iPads create the multiple camera angles? What about Edivate has been high impact at your setting? I think it could be great to use the ability to pause, like Fred mentioned, and having reflection moments. How has that worked so far in your school?

3 Years Ago

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Fred E

Putnam/Northern Westchester

Hi Rachel. I'm wondering if you could incorporate a "pause" in the video, for the most salient pop-ups, the ones you truly want to hit home. This might "force" viewers to focus on the words, rather than having to try and process the words and the visuals.

3 Years Ago

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Hi Fred, I definitely think the pause is one of the ideas that should stick. It allows time to digest information. It also goes nicely with the idea of making it for professional learning. Teachers could have a chance to write reflections, answer questions, or have the option of choosing follow-up videos like you talked about in your "Behind Door Number 1" idea. I think there's a lot of potential for using it as a learning tool.

3 Years Ago

It is definitely possible with multiple iPads but even cheaper would be a couple of flip cameras. This solution would work for the top tech savvy teachers and probably a few more. It would not be a system for recording, storing and sharing that would be usable for all teachers. Even at my school which was Florida's State Demonstration School for Technology, we could not get all teachers to be comfortable with the process until we had an easy to use system in place. There are not enough coaches to go out to set up and operate equipment to have the impact across a school or district. CCSD is going to have about 15 coaches next year. They will be supporting teachers across the 5th largest district in the country. These solutions such as Flip Cameras, iPads, or Swivl are a great starting point if you need to sell the concepts of Video-Enhanced PD or you are doing it for your self, but they are not replicatable across a school or district. Sorry if I am coming of negative it is not my goal. VPD is going to have a larger impact on teacher development than anything else ever has. I think I am just looking at it from a district implementation instead of a teacher implementation. Part of my job is Strategic Planning with districts so I might be bias. LOL

3 Years Ago

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In spite of the challenges you mention, it sounds like it is still a high impact idea that has allowed a lot of teachers to get invested in their development, which makes it exciting. I wonder if the district implementation can be ironed out with some of the other ideas posted: Flip PD, Google Classrooms/LMS, Google Hangouts, or using a forum that exists such as Teaching Channel. Many of those are free and could lead to implementation on a bigger scale.

3 Years Ago

Insight Education Group not only allows you to upload and comment but will assign you a content area coach. It is not free of course. www.insighteducationgroup.com/gamechanger They have a brochure that has some good data and ideas on how to roll it out. I see what you are saying and any of those solutions can be successful. They biggest challenge is getting the recordings completed. We have been able to do this for years but teachers don't.

Almost 3 Years Ago

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Adam G

Edthena

Hi Rachel, Your comparison to VH1 Pop Up Video and Soundcloud really resonate with me. Those were some of the original experiences which inspired me in the design of building out Edthena. Our original platform actually had a pop up comment, but we quickly added a comment stream down below. In our current platform, we use the same visual cue of a pop up where we highlight the "comment happening right now," but we keep things out of the way for the viewer in a comment stream. Check out our demo and let us know what you think. I'd be really interested to hear your (and everyone else's) feedback given the conversation that's been happening in this thread.

Almost 3 Years Ago

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Adam, thanks so much for commenting! I'm excited to look at your demo and to learn more about how you have built out Edthena! If you have time, I'd love to be able to talk to you more about your process.

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